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For Sale – Cape Horn 31XS Center Console OffShore Boat Twin Yamaha 300’s with Warranty until Feb 2018

Posted by Keith Elder | Posted in Boating, For Sale, Man Toys | Posted on 19-10-2016

NOTE: Boat is Sold


  • Oct 24th – added new video at the bottom of full walk around of hull and motors
  • Nov 1st – boat is under contract, sale is pending
  • Nov 4th – boat sold


This is my personal boat and I am the second owner. You will not find a cleaner, better rigged 2013 boat that has all the comfort and convenience as this Cape Horn 31XS. The Cape Horn 31xs is built on the tournament proven hull, but designed to add comfort and convenience for you and the people you enjoy the most. One of the driest rides out there in its size.

The boat is fully loaded from top to bottom with a lot of electronics and safety gear, much of it new within the last year. The boat has not been tournament fished nor used commercially as a charter.  The boat has primarily been used for boating to the islands, cruising the bay, cruising to get a bite to eat on the water. Occassionally when the weather is perfect and I’m not traveling we’ll head out to some rigs or reefs to fish.

Here is a shot of us anchored at Horn Island, one of the many barrier islands off of the Mississippi gulf coast.16.JPG


The boat is powered by twin Yamaha 300 outboards. These are bullet proof motors known to last over 10,000 hours. These motors have 920 hours on them with the majority of those hours at idle (we do a lot of idling while at the islands or fishing around reefs or rigs). If you aren’t that familiar with boat hours it is roughly equivalent to about 33k miles on a car, which as you know is not a lot. The motors have been flushed after every use and have been professionally maintained by Seven C’s Marine in Biloxi, MS. They are also in warranty until Feb 2018!


Fuel Burn / Cruise / Speed

This 2013 Cape Horn 31XS holds 290 gallons (two 145 gallon tanks) of fuel. An interesting piece of info is after 2013 this model only holds 273 gallons because Cape Horn had to rework the fuel tanks because of new regulations. So if you are looking at current specs they do not match this year/model.

With 290 gallons of fuel the boat has a tremendous range of around 500 miles. This gives you plenty of reach for long cruises or offshore fishing.

Top speed on the boat (that i’ve seen) is 58.6mph. Typical cruise is 40-42mph burning 1.8mpg of fuel. You can dial the boat in to get 2.0mpg if you want to slow cruise around 30. Here are some numbers that I’ve documented (I have photos to back this up):

  • 32.2mph at 1.9mpg
  • 44.7mph at 1.6mpg
  • 50.8mpg at 1.2mpg


The boat has been dry stored all of its life (previous owner kept it dry stored as well) and is super clean and well taken care of. The boat is not bottom painted nor been left to sit weeks in the water. The boat gets a full wash down after taken out of the water from top to bottom. In June of 2016 the boat was fully detailed and will be delivered fully detailed and ready for the next owner.

The boat is dry racked at the marina and is not exposed to the elements. As you see in this video it is also stored with all the hatches left open to cut down on mildew building up in the storage compartments. A trick I learned many years ago. This short video will also allow you to see the full lines of the boat.


It comes with a Magic Tilt tandem trailer, 7500lb tandem axles. Since I’ve had the boat I’ve only trailered it a few times. In September of 2015 I had the whole trailer serviced including lights and the hubs. It is ready for a cross country journey or to the nearest boat ramp.


I created a short walk through video of the trailer. I apologize in advanced that I didn’t pull it out of its current location, but it just goes to show how little it is used. About the only time it is moved is to mow around it, which I haven’t done since the early Spring. The trailer measures 40ft long and 8ft 10inches wide. IT IS HUGE!


With the same great ride as the legendary 31T, the 31XS has truly redefined offshore comfort. The XS adds more storage and seating while preserving the unsinkable characteristics of the Cape Horn line. Large compartments were added to the XS model front gun whales for all your gear. Removeable front cushions which snap in place allow easy access to the bow of the boat. When fishing they are easily removed. The seat in front of console also doubles as a cooler and there is seating on the 60 gallon live well on the leaning post and also a transom seat.

While cruising you can easily sit 10 people on the boat. When you want to fish, remove the cushions and you have a fantastic fishing platform to cast that also provides super easy access to the bow when anchoring or sight casting on calm days.

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  • LENGTH 31′ 8″
  • BEAM 9′ 1″
  • DRAFT 22″
  • WEIGHT 5300lbs
  • MAX H.P. 700
    • a $2500 addon
  • ROD HOLDERS (26)
    • (2) deep drop added June 2016
    • (4) added to rear gunnels June 2016

Electronics and Accessories

  • Auto Pilot
    • Garmin GHP 20 Autopilot (New Oct 2016!)
  • Radar
    • Garmin 24HD Radar
  • Sonar
    • Garmin GSD24
    • Airmar 1k transducer
  • Stereo
    • Clarion Radio (supports iphone, has iphone jack)
    • Fusion BT100 bluetooth
  • Amps (1600 watts total)
    • 1000 watt JL Audio AMP
    • 600 watt JL Audio AMP
  • Speakers
    • (4) 10″ JL Audio subs (2 new Sept 2015, 2 new April 2016)
    • (6) JL Audio speakers
  • (2) Head Units
    • 7212 Garmin
    • 5212 Garmin
  • Satellite weather
  • Tackle storage
    • Yes, in leaning post on port side
    • Holds 4 plano boxes and has one large pull out drawer
  • Helm Cushion (to help knees and back while underway)
    • Yes, Foot cush
  • Underwater LED lighting
  • Trim tabs
    • Lenco trim tabs
  • Batteries and switches
    • (4) batteries total
    • (3) perko switches
    • One battery per motor, (2) for the house
    • Also has isolator, can run either motor to keep house batteries charged
  • Outriggers
    • Yes, Revolution outriggers
    • Yes, ACR (new Sept 2015)
  • Anchor and rode included

Additional Pictures

There are other pictures available for viewing online. You can get some higher resolutions by visiting that link.

Walk Through Video

Sometimes it is hard to get a feel for things in pictures so I created a full length walk through video of the boat. In this video I walk you through all the many features of the boat and point out any flaws. Hang in there, I got a little long winded but it should give you a complete feel for the care I’ve put into the boat and how it is rigged.

Outside Hull / Motor Walk Through Video

I was at the marina and had the boat on the maintenance rack a few days ago cleaning some of my gear out of the boat and doing a wash down. Took a full walk around video of the outside hull and motors. I apologize for the wind, it was blowing 30 knots at times. Anyway, enjoy the video!

Why am I selling the boat?

I get this question a lot so I thought I’d post it here. Good question, and fair. The short answer is I’m moving up to a larger boat. This boat will fish 5 comfortably and you can stretch it to 6 depending on the size of those going. I have to leave family and or friends on the dock many trips, just can’t fit everyone so I’m going to move up to a bigger boat. I don’t know what I’ll be looking at for the next purchase but I’m looking forward to shopping and doing some research. If it honestly wasn’t for that I’d be keeping this boat. It is a dry ride, great economy, is fast when you need it, has tons of range, built like a tank and unsinkable, is loaded to the gills with bells and whistles and is comfortable for both fishing and cruising. I really love the boat. My favorite boat of all time and if my circumstances change in the future I wouldn’t hesitate to own another one.

Price: $124,999 – Call or text 601.467.9744

Erlang – Hot Code Loading on Nodes For Dummies

Posted by Keith Elder | Posted in Erlang, XBOX 360 | Posted on 20-02-2014

Erlang – Hot Code Loading on Nodes For Dummies

Hot code loading across nodes in Erlang is a fantastic feature. After hearing about this feature it peaked my interest early on about Erlang and got me to dig in more.  But, I couldn’t get it to work because of my newbyness to Erlang! Hopefully this blog post will help others. 

Imagine You Are a .NET Windows Service

To understand how hot code loading in Erlang works let’s picture for a moment a Console application or Windows Service or Web Service deployed to three different machines. As an Engineer we need to do a simple fix and redeploy code. What do we have to do? Well we have to make our change locally then build the solution, run unit tests, etc. Now it is time to deploy our simple change. This is where things start diverging fast between Erlang and other technologies.  In .NET/Java we have to copy the entire library to each server and then cycle through stopping and starting each process on each server so the new code will get picked up. Whether this is Java or .NET doesn’t matter the same thing applies. Even if your language of choice is a dynamic language like PHP/Ruby/Python you still have to copy the file you changed to all servers. The server or process doesn’t have to be restarted in dynamic languages but you still have to copy the file(s) to the various servers either way. In Erlang we can simply connect to a node and then network load the new code across all nodes in the cluster! 

See this is the big difference. Erlang is distributed out of the box. It was built to be distributable and continue running, even during code pushes. Erlang was designed with the purpose in mind that a system had to keep running. Think about it for a second. What if the phone company said you couldn’t make a call between 9:00 PM and 1:00 PM on a Saturday night because of maintenance window? Yeah that wouldn’t go over very well. There are numerous reports of uptime in systems written in Erlang. Many fans of Erlang use the terms of 9 9’s (and there is even a company called Nine Nines) which his 99.9999999% uptime. If you do the math that is about 30 milliseconds of downtime a year. What? Yeah. That. 

Here’s a quick walk through on how to do this. I tried several times to get it to work and kept running into errors and getting errors so I’ll cover them so you won’t have to struggle at first as much as I did. Here we go.

Install Erlang 

I assume you wear big boy pants and know how to install software but here are a few quick ways to get Erlang installed and up and running. 
  • Mac – use brew and “brew install erlang”
  • Windows – Download Erlang from Erlang.Org
  • Debian Linux – sudo apt-get install erlang
  • CentOs Linux – sudo yum install erlang

Open a terminal / cmd prompt window after it is installed and type “erl”.

If you’ve gotten this far, good, you have Erlang installed. By the way to exit type “ctrl-g” and then “q” (for quit). 

Now let’s write a simple program that will add two numbers. 

Our Program – demo.erl



add(A, B) ->
   A + B.
Copy the above code into a file named demo.erl. Note: it has to be named demo.erl because the first line declares the module name as demo. This is based on a convention as the name of the module and file have to match. 
While Erlang is a dynamic language it is still compiled. To compile this from the cmd line type: “erlc demo.erl”. If there are no errors the command prompt should just return. If there are errors they will print to the screen. If you are typing by hand be sure each line ends with a dot (period). 
The above file isn’t magical, it simply adds to numbers. For those coming from a .NET/OOP background think of the export line as making the function add public. Since Erlang is a functional language there are no classes! This is a good thing as Erlang programs are a lot smaller than languages such as C++/.NET/Java. 

Setting Up Our Nodes

Because Erlang is distributed we can create multiple nodes and run our module demo across three nodes. Typically you’ll do this on completely different servers but because Erlang runs within a VM we can start three instances of the VM locally, connect them, and we have a distributed program. To do this open three terminal windows or command prompts. I’m using a Mac so I will be using tmux in iTerm2 for these examples. 
If you want to follow along with my screen shots be sure to install tmux (brew install tmux). I’ve created three cmd prompts inside of tmux and each one I’m going to run the following command to start an Erlang instance in each one:

erl -name {flintstonecharacter}@ -setcookie dino

As you type each one in your command prompt change the name of the flint stone character. I’m using the following: fred (node1), bambam (node2), betty (node3). After doing so you should have three Erlang prompts that look like this if you are using tmux. 

So what did we just do? Well the -name gives each instance their name of course. The -setcookie option is super important as this is what really connects all three Erlang VM’s together. That cookie has to be named the same.

Running Our Code
Now that we have al three started let’s load our demo program into the top one and run it. 
To do that we are going to type the following:


The result of running that command should be: {ok,demo}. That means our code was compiled. Again be sure the demo.erl is in the folder of the first Erlang shell when you launch it. To run it simply type:


Press enter and you’ll get back those numbers added together. 
So far our other two instances know nothing about our demo module. But let’s clue them in so they can run it too! To do this we are going to ping the nodes so all three are communicating. In your first Erlang shell type: nodes(). This should return [] which means there are no other known nodes. Let’s add them though.
To do this we are going to type the following into the first instance (fred):


Now type nodes(). and you should get back a list containing both bambam and betty. 

At this point all three are connected. We can now hot load some code for them all to run. Let’s push our demo.erl program to all of the nodes (this works if you have 3 or 30). To do this we are going to use the function nl() which means network load. Run this command in your node1 instance (mine is fred). 

Notice we get back “abcast”. Now we can go to the other nodes and run demo:add(4,5). and it works! We just hot loaded code to all the nodes in our cluster. 
If you aren’t sitting back in your chair right now scratching your head going *holy cow* you should be. This is amazing. Take it from me. To do this in other technologies would be mountains and mountains of work. Trust me, I’ve done it. 
In the case above we basically deployed new code to new instances. What if we want to change it will it is running? Basically the same thing is just as simple. Edit the demo.erl file and add the following line above the A + B. line. 

io:format(“Calculating like a boss!\n”).

This is the equivalent of doing “Console.WriteLine()” for those .NET folks. We can test this out on our first node by running c(demo). again. Run demo:add(1,2). in the shell and you should get something like this:


Great it worked. Now let’s push our change to all our nodes! Simple. Just re-run nl(demo). and then re-run a calculation on each node. Boom! Hot code loading. 

Hopefully this little walkthrough will give you some encouragement to look into Erlang. I left out a lot of details about how things worked intentionally as if I didn’t the article would be just too long. Thank for reading and more Erlang articles to come. 

Back in Mac, I typed in Bash

Posted by Keith Elder | Posted in Apple | Posted on 15-02-2014


I was trying to think of a title for this post and the first lines to “Back in Black” by AC/DC kept popping in my head. I was going to try to write a witty pun or play on words on the lyrics to “Back in Black” but I couldn’t think of a word to rhyme with *ash for the second verse. However, the lyrics are somewhat fitting.

Back in black I hit the sack

I been too long I’m glad to be back

Yes I am

Let loose from the noose

That’s kept me hanging about

I keep looking at the sky cause it’s gettin’ me high

Forget the hearse cause I’ll never die

I got nine lives cat’s eyes

Using every one of them and runnin’ wild

Cause I’m back

What am I trying to say you wonder? Well, last week I switched back to using the forbidden fruit, a half-eaten fruit if you will, Apple. The sky isn’t falling for those that only know me as a long time Windows user and Microsoft MVP because I’ve owned a Mac since 2002. I’m not going to suddenly start writing IOS apps and get all hipster so don’t worry. I’m still going to be heavily involved in the .NET community so this isn’t a “I’m leaving .NET for {insert technology} post” because the last time I checked there are still millions and millions of Windows PCs that need software. It is just that I firmly believe a Mac (being Unix based) opens the polyglot programming language door more so than running a Windows PC. Let’s face it, most of the technologies being developed aren’t being built on Windows. They are mostly being built on Mac or Linux and run very consistent on both of those platforms with just a recompile. If you’ve ever tried to run PHP, Python, Ruby, Node etc on Windows you know what I’m talking about. These technologies aren’t native and while Microsoft has made some great strides (especially with Node in Azure recently) they don’t feel or act *native* and that’s important.

2014 is about a different journey for our team. It is a journey that I have been pondering since last fall and that is how to build fault tolerant highly distributable concurrent high availability systems. While .NET, Node, Java, PHP, Python, Ruby are all great I have a burning necessity to build a highly concurrent highly available distributable system (system being the keyword). After a lot of research, thought, discussions, reading, and playing all roads led us to look at Erlang. It isn’t a flashily super hot technology like Node but it is a super powerful platform to build robust systems with as other companies like Huffington Post, WhatsApp, Facebook, Heroku, and Zynga have figured out. 

I work with some amazing team members. Their open mindset and willingness to learn new things to solve our challenging problems in new and unique ways is what really makes this shift possible. As a matter of fact the whole team got Macs this week. While our team has always considered ourselves polyglots and prided ourselves on solving the right problem with the right tool we’re ramping up our polyglotness to DefCon 1 this year. 

Where this new journey leads I don’t know but I have a vision and a plan. It could be a bust or a genius move, time will tell. We’ll figure out the how as we go and I’ll gladly share the ups and downs with those that read this blog in the coming days, weeks, months. I hope to blog about what led us to this decision over time to look at Erlang in a very serious manner but in the mean time I challenge you to get uncomfortable and crazy with us and Learn You Some Erlang for Great Good

NYC Code Camp Saturday / MIGANG Wednesday

Posted by Keith Elder | Posted in .Net, Asp.Net, C#, Presentations, SignalR, Speaking | Posted on 13-09-2013

NYC Code Camp Saturday 9/13/2013 – Simplicity Is Genius

Saturday I will be attending my first New York City Code Camp (@codecampnyc ). I’m traveling thousands of miles to help you make you a better you. I’ll be doing the talk “Simplicity Is Genius”. Looking at the list of sessions this is the ONLY real Soft Skills session on the menu so I really encourage the New York faithful to attend. If you don’t come you are doing yourself a disservice. Putting technical content in the brain is great but you need to work on YOU some as well.

In this session we’ll take a break from code and focus on the other skills developers need called Soft Skills. We’re going to go deep on what "Simplicity is Genius" really means from the eyes of Forrest Gump and look at many of the life lessons Forrest was trying to teach us in the movie. After attending this session you will learn the value of providing value, how to better communicate with team members, the importance of being nice, and how to leverage techniques used successfully by salesmen backed by scientific research so you can ultimately… tell IT like Forrest Gump.

MIGANG Wednesday 9/18/2013 – Web Applications Re-Imagined for Today’s Demanding End Users

After CodeCampNYC I’ll be heading to Detroit to work onsite for the week. The timing works out so I can make the MIGANG on Wednesday night. I’m really looking forward to it and stressing at the same time as I’m giving a brand new talk entitled “Web Applications Re-Imagined for Today’s Demanding End Users”. If I can pull everything off I want this should be fun, enlightening, dangerous, scary, exhilarating all at the same time.

In this talk we are going to take an extreme departure from a typical three-tiered web application and look at how we can leverage asynchronous messaging, queues, and events in exciting ways.  We’ll be architecting a web application utilizing SignalR, TopShelf, Asp.Net, RabbitMQ, and ServiceStack to create a scalable, highly available, buzzword filled, real-time web application.  We’re going to look at how we’ll handle long running business processes that cross service boundaries using command queues and events to push notifications back to our end users. We’ll learn that we’ve actually made our application stronger, faster, and simpler to write (even transactional when we need it). In the end we’re going to try to break our application to find out if it is truly Engineered to Amaze.

If you are in the area I hope to see you at either event, don’t forget to say hi!

Surface Pro Running Four Screens– My New Personal Workstation

Posted by Keith Elder | Posted in Technology, Windows | Posted on 14-08-2013

No One Believes Me

The other day on Twitter I mentioned I had my Surface Pro running four screens (technically 5 if you count the screen of the Surface itself) and that it was my new workstation. Then I got this tweet from Eric:



I swear this is not Big Foot, it does exist so let’s get that done and out of the way.

The Proof


Tada! I will note this configuration isn’t new. As a matter of fact I’ve had this setup with four screens since 2009 as noted in this article that also discusses what is holding up the screens.

In the picture above you’ll notice one single cord plugged into the Surface in the USB 3.0 slot that runs in behind a speaker and into a Plugable USB 3.0 docking station. The docking station is the secret and provides all of the magic. What’s running on the Surface is TweetDeck (top left), Skype (top right), playing full screen Youtube video (bottom left) and Outlook 2013 (bottom right). The screen on the Surface is just showing the standard desktop.


FIrst of all thanks for the interests in this article. My Twitter feed @keithelder has been blowing up with questions all day. For the many of you asking about lag I recorded a quick video so you can see everything working live.

This should answer those questions about lag.


I created another video. This time because there seems to be a lot of misinformation in people’s heads about the Surface in general and especially the Pro. Look folks, this thing is a full blown Windows PC. But it has a touch screen and is also a tablet. Someone wanted me to push it a little further than doing just one video. So here is a video of the Surface Pro streaming FOUR YouTube videos at the same time full screen while also downloading Visual Studio 2012, and running Tweet Deck, Outlook 2013, Skype, Chrome, IE, Live Writer and Adobe Audition. I think it was also washing dishes at the same time I can’t remember. The point is this little itty bitty device isn’t slow. It is a full blown PC packed into a tiny form factor so don’t let what you may have read in media previously fool you.

Four YouTube videos streamed over USB 3.0 Docking Station

Another thing I should point out is the performance rating of the Surface Pro. People keep asking me if it can run Visual Studio. The answer is yes yes yes yes. I just installed it. Don’t take my word for it though. Compare performance information with your existing development machines and see how you stack up against the Surface Pro. Don’t get me wrong, there are way faster computers out there. It just that not many people realize what this device is really capable of. I just can’t wait to see what they do with the Surface Pro 2!


UPDATE 8/15/2013 5:25 PM

More questions have come in as this story continues to spread.

@RockyLhotka asked this a bit ago:

Hey @keithelder does your multi-mon setup run Netflix? I found the DL drivers weren’t signed, so couldn’t play DRMed content?

Rocky is talking about the Display Link drivers that the hard you’ll read about below uses. To answer Rocky’s question the answer is Netflix works without a single problem. I ran Netflix in the browser and then installed the Netflix app from Windows Store and ran that. They both work without a problem. Matter of fact I was watching the Netflix video while playing Angry Birds Star Wars which is combining desktop apps while also running Windows Store apps at the same time. It is getting crazy!

The Setup

I know. Your mind is blown. Full screen Youtube playing with four screens all from one USB 3.0 cable!? Answer. Yes. And it also provides sound, mouse, keyboard and has a HD video cam plugged into it.

Here is a closer pic of the Plugable Docking Station:


The docking station is just one of the pieces to the puzzle. It has a DVI port in the back of it so one of the screens is plugged directly into the DVI port. That leaves three other screens to go. For that piece of the puzzle all we need is a converter to go from DVI or VGA to USB 3.0. Just so happens Plugable also has the answer to this as well with their UGA-3000 product.

UPDATE 8/16/2013 4:53 PM

@Plugable just as of a few minutes ago drop a brand new docking station, the 3900 model that supports dual monitor support with one DVI and one HDMI. If you are going to get one, this may serve you better than the one I have.


Note the new unit is regular $129 but if you use Amazon promotion code 63P25IGM at checkout it is only $109!

The USB 3.0 UGA adapter will work with anything you have. It works with VGA, DVI and HDMI and includes the adapters in the box. They even support resolutions up to 2048×1152 (which I’m no where close to).

There are two USB 3.0 ports on the front of the docking station so I plugged the other big screen on the bottom plus one of the screens up top into the front USB 3.0 ports. That leaves one of the smaller screens plugged into a USB 2.0 port in the back. I thought I may notice a difference in the screens up top since one was plugged into USB 2.0 but honestly I can’t tell you which screen is plugged into which. To my eye there is no difference.

Let’s recap. To make this work get a Plugable USB 3.0 Docking Station for $99 (or something similar). Then pickup as many UGA-3000 adapters as you need. All total you’ll be in for about $250 if you have four screens which is the cost of a typical docking station.

Side Benefits

A side benefit has come out of my efforts to get multiple screens working with the Surface Pro and that is my Dell notebook I found out has USB 3.0 on it. While I had a Dell docking station for it running two screens, I think we all agree that four is better than two! I’m now using the Plugable Docking Station on the Dell at work which gives me four screens to work with as well. A whole new level of productivity at work has opened up.

Switching between the Dell and the Surface is dead simple. There is only one cable to plug / unplug. Everything runs off of the one USB 3.0 cable. Let me just go ahead and say this: USB 3.0…. I love you.

So Long Gigantic Desktop

In the article I mentioned at the beginning I stated my four screen setup isn’t new. In that article is the picture below of a custom gigantic desktop sitting besides the four screens.

That desktop now sits below the desk collecting dust. As a matter of fact I’m loaning it out to a buddy of mine who’s computer died. I’d rather it get used than sit in my floor. It is still a great machine but it doesn’t travel very well. The Surface Pro has plenty of power in all honesty to do anything I really need at the moment.

I blogged after Windows 8 was announced in September 2011 about the up and coming hardware revolution and how Windows 8 was a transformer OS. The Surface Pro is just the tip of the iceberg and I don’t see me buying a desktop ever again. If I can’t take whatever I buy with me it is useless in today’s world as far as I’m concerned.

I can’t predict the future but I assure you the Surface Pro isn’t going to last forever as my workstation as I’m just waiting on the new line of Ultrabooks to come out with better battery life and slimmer design. Whatever I wind up with will have USB 3.0 and it will be running these four screens. Being able to just unplug and go is super powerful. Moving from workstation to tablet with touch and then back is great. So far I’m enjoying the ride.

The next time you are looking for a new machine don’t leave Ultrabooks or the Surface Pro off your list. As long as it has USB 3.0 you’ve got something that can transform into a workstation and then to a tablet. Best of both worlds in my opinion and Windows 8.1 plus the new line of Intel processors is going to make it even better.

So long gigantic desktop… you’ve served me well.